pairing harris hawks

im feeling proud of using all this thread virginity!

need some advise about pairing my harries up for breeding (fingers crossed)
both fly and hunt well with other harrises and together and have both been in avairies directly next to each other for over a month. both are pig fat. however on introtuding them into a new avairy together a couple of days ago my male keeps bullys the female so ive had to seperate them again..
any ideas???

Get the female to buy the male a nice watch and then see what happens

Palmer wrote:Get the female to buy the male a nice watch and then see what happens

you can find a watch that will fit then !!

yes i hiden it down my boxer's ......

Thats some male bullying a female, did you put the female into the males aviary, and if so has he been in there along time? you could try puting them in a different aviary, some males can look like they are bullying sophie take ed for example

sophie thats what u want hes showing her hes the boss i had a pair of gyr/sakers together the female was horrible to the male in the end i had to take him out he was to scared of her tried him with another female and they bonded great the male aggression is fine sometimes its worse when the female is aggressive
atb
Liam

spughawk wrote:Thats some male bullying a female, did you put the female into the males aviary, and if so has he been in there along time? you could try puting them in a different aviary, some males can look like they are bullying sophie take ed for example

they are in a different avairy... well the male lived in it for a few month about 3 years ago but apart from that it a new environment.

when i say bullying i mean him going for her feet out and pulling her off the perch (yest drawing a small amount of blood on her leg) but then he leaves her alone till she gets back up lol she just trying to stay out of his way

im getting some massive avairys built at the hotel soon so am hoping with a bigger avairy she will have more space to get away as until they settle

soph try leaving the male in the avairy for a week or so then introduce the female to him ,this is what nick fox recommends

grovsey1 wrote:soph try leaving the male in the avairy for a week or so then introduce the female to him ,this is what nick fox recommends

wouldnt this make him more territorial

Sophie wrote:

grovsey1 wrote:soph try leaving the male in the avairy for a week or so then introduce the female to him ,this is what nick fox recommends

wouldnt this make him more territorial

I thought it was the other way around???

Not being funny just what i thought...

Atb

stu Bailey wrote:

Sophie wrote:

grovsey1 wrote:soph try leaving the male in the avairy for a week or so then introduce the female to him ,this is what nick fox recommends

wouldnt this make him more territorial

I thought it was the other way around???

Not being funny just what i thought...

Atb

eh? u mean female in first? or less territorial?

Sophie wrote:

stu Bailey wrote:

Sophie wrote:

grovsey1 wrote:soph try leaving the male in the avairy for a week or so then introduce the female to him ,this is what nick fox recommends

wouldnt this make him more territorial

I thought it was the other way around???

Not being funny just what i thought...

Atb

eh? u mean female in first? or less territorial?

Thinking about it groves was proberly right in the 1st place but in this case surly put the female in 1st..if its getting bullied

i am only going off what its says on nick fox dvd ,its all about terratory and butting the male in for the first week or 2 instills this in the male ,then put the female in

hello!!

i put an old male harris (9 years) in with a quasi mature female back in 2000 . the two were introduced on jesses then the male was placed into the aviary three weeks before the female.

the aviary was a sunlight and seclusion job.

they hatched and reared three harrises sucessfully.

as a footnote the my male harris was super tame before he went into the breeding pen when he cam out after only three months he was as wild as hell! he had been in a moulting chamber alone previously for longer and had never needed much reclaiming.

best of luck with your harrises!

sean

the term is "skylight and seclusion" m8 and it is most usuall to house the male of any species in the pen for a while 1st so the female will be entering his territory. some birds will get on straight away no matter what others will never do so, there is no way of knowing, it is an individual thing, but harrisses are normally fine being so social. the problem ive allways had with harrisses is stopping them breeding with 3 clutches not unusuall? wish i could breed falcons as easily?

update on this is we gave up and used a different male they are quite happy together but never produced any eggs this year think we are going to leave them together and hope something happens next year.